Comments on: Tudou.com again included in the Silicon Alley Insider list http://www.marc.cn/2009/10/tudoucom-again-included-in-silicon.html Marc van der Chijs' Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:48:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: SAI Digital 100 – Tudou ranks #15!! | Shanghaied Weblog http://www.marc.cn/2009/10/tudoucom-again-included-in-silicon.html/comment-page-1#comment-5400 SAI Digital 100 – Tudou ranks #15!! | Shanghaied Weblog Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:44:30 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=1105#comment-5400 [...] No comment on that valuation from me, SAI explains how they get to our valuation in their post. Like I said last year as well, the list is rather arbitrary (Spil Games is again missing from the list, they absolutely [...] [...] No comment on that valuation from me, SAI explains how they get to our valuation in their post. Like I said last year as well, the list is rather arbitrary (Spil Games is again missing from the list, they absolutely [...]

]]> By: Lucas http://www.marc.cn/2009/10/tudoucom-again-included-in-silicon.html/comment-page-1#comment-2429 Lucas Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:43:06 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=1105#comment-2429 Let me comment on this blocking thing. Not only YouTube is blocked in China. Also Vimeo (BTW in my opinion superior to all other video sharing websites thanks to both of quality of sound and video, second of content posted there). Also Facebook. Even something as innocent as Picasa is over board too. And now, just after i came back from Europe which was celebrating 20th anniv of Berlin Wall's fall, when i wanted to use my Opera Mini browser (which worked like a VPN in a way), i was welcomed by a note, "for improved browsing experience, download China version.." (which, of course, is sanitized of access to all above mentioned websites.) Not some "Server not found" or "Timed out", but "improved browsing", and this humiliation even comes from US (!!!) company's server - man, that REALLY hurts. So why did we tear the wall down for? Is it really only matter of time before for sake of stock value, all companies will hand over sensitive data to chinese govt and just watch the other direction when a few ppl will get shot? <br />When is this blocking madness going to stop? I bet two things: first, not very soon, as some of these blocks are also motivated economically (read "chinese grown companies hv better guanxi in Beijing than their foreign competitors and actually enjoy being protected by GFW") - who thinks this is too stretched just read Marc's sentence about PLA in the Trailwalker, "...Chinese will do ANYTHING to win...and foreign competitors often underestimate this." <br />Second, this generation of politicians will not be the one who will phase out GFW. <br />Allow me one speculation here: the reason for fortifying of GFW was neither Facebook profiles of those guys from west, or some videos from L-city. (U know what i am talking about.) I think the reason was rise of Obama. Present govt sure does not want any contender having zillions of fans, all safely hidden at servers - and THIS is the most important i guess - from which they cannot get a password. No. And as the first line of Art of War, the most important book about Chinese metality and approach to the world reads, "War is the most important thing for the survival or defeat of a state. It must never be overlooked." If I were in their boots, I would probably dance the same way... /Marc, with a stake as huge in China as yours i will fully understand if u do not approve this comment, no hard feeling on my side.../ Let me comment on this blocking thing. Not only YouTube is blocked in China. Also Vimeo (BTW in my opinion superior to all other video sharing websites thanks to both of quality of sound and video, second of content posted there). Also Facebook. Even something as innocent as Picasa is over board too. And now, just after i came back from Europe which was celebrating 20th anniv of Berlin Wall's fall, when i wanted to use my Opera Mini browser (which worked like a VPN in a way), i was welcomed by a note, "for improved browsing experience, download China version.." (which, of course, is sanitized of access to all above mentioned websites.) Not some "Server not found" or "Timed out", but "improved browsing", and this humiliation even comes from US (!!!) company's server – man, that REALLY hurts. So why did we tear the wall down for? Is it really only matter of time before for sake of stock value, all companies will hand over sensitive data to chinese govt and just watch the other direction when a few ppl will get shot?
When is this blocking madness going to stop? I bet two things: first, not very soon, as some of these blocks are also motivated economically (read "chinese grown companies hv better guanxi in Beijing than their foreign competitors and actually enjoy being protected by GFW") – who thinks this is too stretched just read Marc's sentence about PLA in the Trailwalker, "…Chinese will do ANYTHING to win…and foreign competitors often underestimate this."
Second, this generation of politicians will not be the one who will phase out GFW.
Allow me one speculation here: the reason for fortifying of GFW was neither Facebook profiles of those guys from west, or some videos from L-city. (U know what i am talking about.) I think the reason was rise of Obama. Present govt sure does not want any contender having zillions of fans, all safely hidden at servers – and THIS is the most important i guess – from which they cannot get a password. No. And as the first line of Art of War, the most important book about Chinese metality and approach to the world reads, "War is the most important thing for the survival or defeat of a state. It must never be overlooked." If I were in their boots, I would probably dance the same way… /Marc, with a stake as huge in China as yours i will fully understand if u do not approve this comment, no hard feeling on my side…/

]]> By: Jan http://www.marc.cn/2009/10/tudoucom-again-included-in-silicon.html/comment-page-1#comment-2428 Jan Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:17:23 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=1105#comment-2428 Hello Marc,<br /><br />My sincere congrats for the achievements made at both Tudou and Spilgames. This is only the beginning. We once met at Spil's office in Hsum (We showed you a pinball game which unfortunately did not make it because of lack of the right techniques at that time)and i can only have respect for you/ your team's work. Keep up the good work! Hello Marc,

My sincere congrats for the achievements made at both Tudou and Spilgames. This is only the beginning. We once met at Spil's office in Hsum (We showed you a pinball game which unfortunately did not make it because of lack of the right techniques at that time)and i can only have respect for you/ your team's work. Keep up the good work!

]]> By: Marc van der Chijs http://www.marc.cn/2009/10/tudoucom-again-included-in-silicon.html/comment-page-1#comment-2427 Marc van der Chijs Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:23:14 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=1105#comment-2427 @anonymouse & @dincer YouTube is still blocked in China, so getting a bigger market share than them is not so difficult. But also when YouTube was still going strong here it never had more than 2-3% market share (with Tudou >40% market share) @anonymouse & @dincer YouTube is still blocked in China, so getting a bigger market share than them is not so difficult. But also when YouTube was still going strong here it never had more than 2-3% market share (with Tudou >40% market share)

]]> By: Dincer http://www.marc.cn/2009/10/tudoucom-again-included-in-silicon.html/comment-page-1#comment-2426 Dincer Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:57:13 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=1105#comment-2426 First of all, congratulations..<br /><br />By the way, isn't youtube still blocked in China? First of all, congratulations..

By the way, isn't youtube still blocked in China?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.marc.cn/2009/10/tudoucom-again-included-in-silicon.html/comment-page-1#comment-2425 Anonymous Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:37:18 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=1105#comment-2425 "Tudou, which has a greater market share in China than YouTube."<br /><br />I would hope so, yeah, otherwise you have a serious problem on your hands! We can see that these people are keeping abreast of the latest news....! :) "Tudou, which has a greater market share in China than YouTube."

I would hope so, yeah, otherwise you have a serious problem on your hands! We can see that these people are keeping abreast of the latest news….! :)

]]> By: ADM http://www.marc.cn/2009/10/tudoucom-again-included-in-silicon.html/comment-page-1#comment-2424 ADM Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:07:20 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=1105#comment-2424 Congrats on this, M! Like a proud corporate father, you must be touched and innerly satisfied to see Tudou blossoming and growing. I share your joy vicariously.<br /><br />--ADM Congrats on this, M! Like a proud corporate father, you must be touched and innerly satisfied to see Tudou blossoming and growing. I share your joy vicariously.

–ADM

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