Comments on: A fabricated interview is not a smart idea http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html Marc van der Chijs' Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:48:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Querido http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-9228 Querido Sun, 08 May 2011 04:53:31 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-9228 Barista is Chris and the real story of what happened can be found here: http://www.hkgcc.org.hk/memberarea/c...f%20090420.pdf He is a Baron now. Lord Devonshire-Ellis so obviously he is doing well. Barista is Chris and the real story of what happened can be found here:

http://www.hkgcc.org.hk/memberarea/c…f%20090420.pdf

He is a Baron now. Lord Devonshire-Ellis so obviously he is doing well.

]]> By: Marc van der Chijs http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-7767 Marc van der Chijs Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:37:44 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-7767 I remember that he was kicked out of China and that he stepped down in his role at his company. He eventually showed up in India (after trying to get a sailing license or something in Thailand if I remember correctly), with a fancy title for China Briefing. At that point I stopped following what he was doing. So much dirt about him was uncovered in the blogosphere after this scandal (whether true or not) that I decided to stay as far away from him as possible. If he is back in China again that's good for him. I remember that he was kicked out of China and that he stepped down in his role at his company. He eventually showed up in India (after trying to get a sailing license or something in Thailand if I remember correctly), with a fancy title for China Briefing. At that point I stopped following what he was doing. So much dirt about him was uncovered in the blogosphere after this scandal (whether true or not) that I decided to stay as far away from him as possible. If he is back in China again that’s good for him.

]]> By: China Barista http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-7491 China Barista Thu, 13 Jan 2011 20:44:00 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-7491 Wisdom has it the interview did take place and the Chairman of the CBRC forgot to mention it was off the record. Chris duly published it then the market moved by billions. The central bank had little choice than to deny the interview occurred to prevent further damage. That's rather tough on Chris who was only doing his job. However, he's still in Beijing as far as I can see and China Briefing is as strong as ever. If Chris really had fabricated an interview with a senior Chinese Minister and caused that damage he have been deported. The fact he wasn't and is still running his business I think supports the fact the interview had taken place. But no doubt both parties want to forget about it and move on. Chris has got balls you have to have to survive that and prosper. The blogs that roasted him - well what do you expect? Wisdom has it the interview did take place and the Chairman of the CBRC forgot to mention it was off the record. Chris duly published it then the market moved by billions. The central bank had little choice than to deny the interview occurred to prevent further damage. That’s rather tough on Chris who was only doing his job.
However, he’s still in Beijing as far as I can see and China Briefing is as strong as ever.
If Chris really had fabricated an interview with a senior Chinese Minister and caused that damage he have been deported. The fact he wasn’t and is still running his business I think supports the fact the interview had taken place. But no doubt both parties want to forget about it and move on. Chris has got balls you have to have to survive that and prosper. The blogs that roasted him – well what do you expect?

]]> By: The Truth http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-1983 The Truth Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:03:00 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-1983 If you follow the link to my name you can see the almost original republished "interview" on "The Truth About Chris Devonshire Ellis".com<br/><br/>We are in pursuit of the "missing part", updates will follow on the site If you follow the link to my name you can see the almost original republished “interview” on “The Truth About Chris Devonshire Ellis”.com

We are in pursuit of the “missing part”, updates will follow on the site

]]> By: Marc van der Chijs http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-1982 Marc van der Chijs Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:48:00 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-1982 @Steven It seems highly unlikely to me, it was a formal interview that went quite deep into several topics. After what I have been reading about CDE over the past 48 I think it's even more unlikely.<br/><br/>Some readers of this blog sent me confidential mails suggesting among others that CDE did not even know the ministers he regularly interviews personally. Don't know what to believe, but it all smells a bit fishy to me. Especially because all these interviews, called Ministerial Meetings, have now suddenly disappeared from the China Briefing site (I still have a copy of some of them). @Steven It seems highly unlikely to me, it was a formal interview that went quite deep into several topics. After what I have been reading about CDE over the past 48 I think it’s even more unlikely.

Some readers of this blog sent me confidential mails suggesting among others that CDE did not even know the ministers he regularly interviews personally. Don’t know what to believe, but it all smells a bit fishy to me. Especially because all these interviews, called Ministerial Meetings, have now suddenly disappeared from the China Briefing site (I still have a copy of some of them).

]]> By: Steven http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-1981 Steven Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:42:00 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-1981 Unfortunately, I'm not able to read his article interview since it's been removed everywhere. <br/><br/>I have to wonder if it's not a fabrication but a late-night-bai-jiu-dinner conversation that was off the record.<br/><br/>Could that be possible from his interview article (now long gone)? Unfortunately, I’m not able to read his article interview since it’s been removed everywhere.

I have to wonder if it’s not a fabrication but a late-night-bai-jiu-dinner conversation that was off the record.

Could that be possible from his interview article (now long gone)?

]]> By: Marc van der Chijs http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-1980 Marc van der Chijs Fri, 20 Feb 2009 03:28:00 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-1980 @anonymous 1 + 2: I assume you are the same person as your first sentence is almost the same. I never met CDE (except once on a plane to Macau that was delayed a lot and when he was complaining loudly about that), but why should that mean that I cannot write about him? It does not happen every day that a well-known foreign businessman fakes an interview with a top government official and that this leads to a special notice on a government website. To me that is news and not just a rumor. I received several emails from people who know CDE personally over the past 24 hours with very juicy information that I will not post here, because those are not things that I can objectively verify. <br/><br/>I still think CDE did a great job in building up Dezan Shira. Everybody makes mistakes, some a bit more grave than others, and it's all about how you handle them. I hope for him that he does not get persecuted and that he does not make things bigger for himself. <br/><br/>About your other comments (@anonymouse 2), I believe that sharing my experiences on the Internet brings me a lot, both in terms of business and privately. Certainly now with Twitt where I am having some great conversations. The world has changed over the past years and I believe it will change a lot more. Maybe for your generation (I assume you are older than me) it is not common to live a more public life, but for many younger people this is the norm. Why try to be mysterious like you? You think I am losing power because of this? Give me a break, being open is what gives me power. On the web it is what you give is what you get, if you hide you miss out on a lot of interesting opportunities.<br/><br/>I am very happy with my life as you can see from my blog and feel no need to change it. Not reading emails before lunch? Would drive me nuts, and it would interfere with my business. I actually feel more relaxed when I know what's going on, I guess that's called feeling responsible for a business. <br/><br/>I guess we are different and that's fine. No worries, I am not the person that calls somebody a 'stupid crazy guy' because of that, I respect people's opinions and certainly think about what commenters write. Feel free to get in touch privately if you would like, my email is on this blog. @anonymous 1 + 2: I assume you are the same person as your first sentence is almost the same. I never met CDE (except once on a plane to Macau that was delayed a lot and when he was complaining loudly about that), but why should that mean that I cannot write about him? It does not happen every day that a well-known foreign businessman fakes an interview with a top government official and that this leads to a special notice on a government website. To me that is news and not just a rumor. I received several emails from people who know CDE personally over the past 24 hours with very juicy information that I will not post here, because those are not things that I can objectively verify.

I still think CDE did a great job in building up Dezan Shira. Everybody makes mistakes, some a bit more grave than others, and it’s all about how you handle them. I hope for him that he does not get persecuted and that he does not make things bigger for himself.

About your other comments (@anonymouse 2), I believe that sharing my experiences on the Internet brings me a lot, both in terms of business and privately. Certainly now with Twitt where I am having some great conversations. The world has changed over the past years and I believe it will change a lot more. Maybe for your generation (I assume you are older than me) it is not common to live a more public life, but for many younger people this is the norm. Why try to be mysterious like you? You think I am losing power because of this? Give me a break, being open is what gives me power. On the web it is what you give is what you get, if you hide you miss out on a lot of interesting opportunities.

I am very happy with my life as you can see from my blog and feel no need to change it. Not reading emails before lunch? Would drive me nuts, and it would interfere with my business. I actually feel more relaxed when I know what’s going on, I guess that’s called feeling responsible for a business.

I guess we are different and that’s fine. No worries, I am not the person that calls somebody a ‘stupid crazy guy’ because of that, I respect people’s opinions and certainly think about what commenters write. Feel free to get in touch privately if you would like, my email is on this blog.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-1979 Anonymous Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:58:00 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-1979 How can you write down something like that about a guy you never met personaly? Because you share the opinions of some twitters or you feel that everything is clear?<br/><br/>But it is a good starter for me. I am reading a lot about you. Aren How can you write down something like that about a guy you never met personaly? Because you share the opinions of some twitters or you feel that everything is clear?

But it is a good starter for me. I am reading a lot about you. Aren

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-1978 Anonymous Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:37:00 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-1978 How can you write down something like that about a guy you dont know? Pffff..... because you read in the internet and read a lot in the web2.0 bullshit world? Funny! How can you write down something like that about a guy you dont know? Pffff….. because you read in the internet and read a lot in the web2.0 bullshit world? Funny!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.marc.cn/2009/02/fabricated-interview-is-not-smart-idea.html/comment-page-1#comment-1977 Anonymous Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:50:00 +0000 http://mirrin.nl/?p=989#comment-1977 Just another case of a seemingly "succcessful entrepreneur in China" being bogus, and full of it in the end. Not exactly the first, nor the last case; there's tons. Just another case of a seemingly “succcessful entrepreneur in China” being bogus, and full of it in the end. Not exactly the first, nor the last case; there’s tons.

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